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HSH - Hillshire Brands Co Conference Call to discuss the
acquisition of Pinnacle Foods Inc.
EVENT DATE/TIME: MAY 12, 2014 / 12:30PM GMT
OVERVIEW:
HSH reported that it signed agreement to acquire Pinnacle Foods for $6.6b.
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MAY 12, 2014 / 12:30PM GMT, HSH - Hillshire Brands Co Conference Call to discuss the
acquisition of Pinnacle Foods Inc.
CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Melissa Napier Hillshire Brands Company- SVP of IR
Sean Connolly Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Maria Henry Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Robert Moskow Credit Suisse - Analyst
Ken Zaslow BMO Capital Markets - Analyst
Farha Aslam Stephens Inc. - Analyst
Andrew Lazar Barclays Capital - Analyst
Ken Goldman JPMorgan - Analyst
Eric Katzman Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Robert Dickerson Consumer Edge Research - Analyst
John Baumgartner Wells Fargo Securities - Analyst
Akshay Jagdale KeyBanc Capital Markets - Analyst
Todd Duvick BofA Merrill Lynch - Analyst
Priya Ohri-Gupta Barclays Capital - Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good morning, and welcome to the Hillshire Brands conference call. Your lines have been placed in a listen-only mode.
This conference is being recorded.
If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Melissa Napier, Treasurer and Senior Vice President of Investor Relations for Hillshire Brands. Thank you, you may begin.
Melissa Napier - Hillshire Brands Company - SVP of IR
Thanks, Candy. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us on such short notice.
Im sure you saw our exciting news that earlier this morning we announced that we have entered into an agreement to acquire Pinnacle Foods. Sean Connolly and Maria Henry, our CEO and CFO, will provide their perspectives on the deal, and will take your questions after our prepared remarks conclude.
Ill remind you that this call will contain forward-looking statements about the financial conditions, results of operations, and businesses of Hillshire and the combined businesses of Pinnacle and Hillshire, including the expected benefits of the proposed merger. I also want to note that the proposed merger transaction will be submitted to a vote by Hillshires and Pinnacles shareholders. Hillshire will prepare a registration statement that will include a joint proxy statement prospectus to be filed with the SEC, and Hillshire and Pinnacle will mail it to their stockholders.
We urge investors and stockholders to read the joint proxy statement prospectus when it becomes available, as well as other documents filed with the SEC, because they will contain important information. Investors and security holders will be able to receive the registration statement containing the proxy statement prospectus and other documents at the SECs website or from Hillshire or Pinnacle.
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MAY 12, 2014 / 12:30PM GMT, HSH - Hillshire Brands Co Conference Call to discuss the
acquisition of Pinnacle Foods Inc.
Now I will turn the call over to Sean.
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Thanks, Melissa. Good morning everybody, and thanks for calling in.
It is an exciting day in the food industry as we continue to do what we set out to do two years ago. That is to build a different kind of food Company, one that is simultaneously innovative and lean, and capable of delivering strong and consistent returns to our shareholders.
Over the past two years, the progress weve made in strengthening our brands and taking out costs has been unmistakable. Our growth rate has improved sequentially, and our OI margin has meaningfully increased, and has been above our targeted 10% over the past three quarters. As we continued to advance our base business plans, we also turned more of our attention to capital deployment, where we raised our dividend 40% at the start of this fiscal, and have been aggressively advancing our M&A agenda.
With respect to M&A, today we are pleased to report that weve signed an agreement to acquire Pinnacle Foods in a deal we are confident will generate significant value for our shareholders. Here are the key elements of the new Hillshire Brands. The combination creates a nearly $7-billion company with iconic brands and leading positions across frozen, refrigerated, and dry grocery categories. It unites two strongly performing and highly complementary companies that are demonstrating a commitment to both brand building and a lean cost structure. Culturally, the companies are very similar.
Third, the acquisition will deliver enhanced scale, capabilities, and margins, along with input cost diversification. Importantly, the financial impact is highly compelling, as the deal is expected to unlock immediate accretion and significant cost synergies, as well as meaningful new revenue opportunities. Finally, the strong combined cash flows will enable continued investment to support growth, and drive long-term shareholder returns. Overall, this is a highly attractive combination.
Let me walk you through some of the key facts on the deal. On structure and consideration, this is a $6.6-billion transaction in cash and stock. The effective EBITDA multiple is 9.6%, after considering synergies and other benefits. The implied purchase price represents an 18% premium. In terms of financial benefits, the deal is immediately accretive to EPS in year one, and delivers robust accretion number by year three.
Contributing to that is the $140 million in cost synergies we expect to deliver by the end of that third year. Importantly, the acquisition is also margin accretive, and opens up broader revenue opportunities for both companies. We like the fact that it diversifies our input cost basket. Ill elaborate on each of these points momentarily.
In terms of timing and shareholder support, we expect the deal to close by September, subject to regulatory and shareholder approvals. Clearly Blackstone, Pinnacles largest shareholder, who owns 51% of the company, is committed to voting its shares in favor of the transaction. Lastly, the Company will continue to be called Hillshire Brands, be located in Chicago, and I will continue on as CEO.
Today Pinnacle is a $2.6-billion company with iconic brands that span frozen and center store, with a very small specialty business that includes food service. Importantly, the Pinnacle management team has done an excellent job shedding weak performers from this portfolio, driving strong productivity and revitalizing iconic brands like Birds Eye, which creates a terrific platform from which to build.
A couple of important points on scale. First on the left. When you combine Hillshire and Pinnacle, the resulting Company stands just below Hormel and Campbells on size, but with a sales base that is almost exclusively focused in the US, so a leading US food Company. On the right, what you can see is that the combined Company will be the number three player in frozen. It gets there with what I believe are two of the strongest billion-dollar brands in frozen, Jimmy Dean and Birds Eye.
As you get under the hood on the two companies, you quickly see that they are highly complementary. Both portfolios have iconic brands centered on convenient meals, and both appeal to essentially the same consumers. Meats go with vegetables, sandwiches go with pickles. Both companies have highly complementary breakfast brands, and both have pie and dessert brands. It is a tremendous fit.
But what matters most to me here is that both companies have a very similar DNA. We are lean, we are hungry, we believe in strong brands, and we believe in strong shareholder returns. The time Ive spent with Pinnacles management team has only served to reinforce how similar our cultures are, and now I look forward to getting to know more of the Pinnacle team.
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The new Hillshire will be a very attractive portfolio. We will have three billion-dollar brands with Jimmy Dean, Hillshire Farm, and Birds Eye. We will have Ball Park at half a billion and expanding into new categories. We will have three brands at roughly a quarter billion with Duncan Hines, Vlassic, and Wish-Bone. At the bottom of this chart you see the three acquisitions that Hillshire made previously, brands we are confident offers significant potential.
When you add it up, the strong brands you see on this page account for roughly 2/3 of the revenue of the combined companies. Last point here is that the new Hillshire will be one of the few food companies in the US with a strong presence across frozen, refrigerated, and dry grocery.
I wont belabor this next slide, but I want to say again that these are excellent brands with leading share positions. As Hillshire has shown, when you get behind leading brands in a way that contemporizes them through brand building and innovation, good things happen. We are excited about the opportunity to do that across this broader portfolio.
We see lots of good things that can happen when the two portfolios come together. Down the road, well be back with an Investor Day to share our detailed plans after weve gotten into the business. But for now, Ill focus you on three areas. First, frozen. I believe that between the combined scale of our frozen businesses, the great brands we have to work with, and our retail customers strong desire to revitalize the frozen space overall, there is a very attractive opportunity here.
Similarly, we think Hillshires strength and credibility in refrigerated opens up new innovation opportunities for the Pinnacle brands and trademarks. Finally, the center of the store. Here we believe that coupling Hillshires brands and innovation capabilities with Pinnacles center-store brands and access opens up new growth in a part of the store that is vitally important to retail customers. More on this at a later date.
Now two other points to make. The new Hillshire will have significantly stronger margins, as you can see on the left. Additionally, the Companys input cost basket will be further diversified, which we expect will result in even better consistency. One of the things thats critical to this Company is a very lean cost profile. Being lean is how we will continue to fuel growth and returns. As you can see, by the time we get three years out, these already lean companies are expected to come together to deliver an SG&A profile that will be industry leading, or close to it.
On cost synergies, we expect to deliver $140 million by the end of year three. These synergies will be roughly evenly split between supply chain and consolidation of overhead expenses. There will be about $180 million of one-time costs to get at these ongoing synergies, and we will have a highly capable integration team with very senior leadership from both sides, managing the work streams that will be critical to delivering the synergies, and facilitate a smooth integration.
Both companies have a lot of experience here. In fact, the integration team will be co-led by Tom Hayes, my Chief Supply Chain Officer, and Craig Steeneck, Pinnacles CFO. Finally but importantly, we expect this transaction to be immediately accretive to EPS driven by these synergies.
When we put it all together, this deal builds on the core investment thesis we put out there a couple of years ago. The portfolio competes in attractive and profitable categories. We will continue to follow a disciplined approach to brand-building and innovation. We will also continue to be relentless in our pursuit of cost efficiencies to help fund our growth agenda. All in all, this will be an enviable Company with great brands and stable cash flows, well positioned to continue to drive strong returns for our shareholders.
Now Ill turn it over to Maria to break down the deal for you in a bit more detail. Maria, over to you.
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
Thanks, Sean.
Before I take you through some of the financial details of the transaction and our thinking on capital allocation, let me start by saying that Im very happy about this acquisition, and the opportunities that it offers for our shareholders. This transaction brings together two great companies with great brands, and results in a bigger, better, Hillshire Brand, with increased scale, $1 billion of adjusted EBITDA, and very strong cash flow.
When you consider synergy and the cash assets that we will acquire, we will be paying 9.6 times EBITDA for Pinnacle. The transaction value of $6.6 billion consists of $4.3 billion for their equity and $2.3 billion of net debt. Pinnacles shareholders will be receiving $18 per share, and a half a share of Hillshire Brand stock. We will get the benefit of Pinnacles cash assets, which have an estimated present value of $390 million, or more than three dollars per share. That gives us $6.2 billion adjusted transaction value.
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Looking at this synergized EBITDA, Pinnacles 2013 adjusted EBITDA was $452 million. Plus, we will have the full-year impact and expected synergies from the Wish-Bone acquisition, representing an incremental $55 million. We expect to achieve $140 million annual cost synergies. That brings us to $647 million of synergized EBITDA, and thats the math on the 9.6 times multiple.
We will be financing this transaction by issuing about $59 million of new shares, or $2.1 billion of equity, and raising $4.8 billion of debt, taking advantage both of our strong stock and the current attractive financing market. Goldman Sachs has provided committed financing for the entire amount of the debt. Following the close of the transaction, we expect to have a pro forma debt-to-EBITDA of five times on a trailing 12-month basis, including the full value of the expected cost synergies. Given the strong cash flow of the combined business, we expect to pay down debt and achieve a level of leverage that returns us to investment grade within three years.
On our overall capital allocation priorities, we will continue to invest in our business to support our brands, deliver our productivity initiatives, achieve expected synergies, and to ensure the seamless integration of Pinnacle into Hillshire Brands. We will hold our current dividend of $0.70 per share for the foreseeable future. Once we achieve a lower level of leverage, we intend to take the dividend up, back to a pay-out level consistent with PPG Food Companies.
Clearly, we will be focused on paying down debt, and consistent with that, we are suspending our current share repurchase program. I wouldnt expect any share repurchases for the next two years. Beyond that, well reassess based on where we are with our balance sheet.
We will continue to look at stronger M&A opportunities to augment our portfolio and advance our growth agenda. Overall, our capital allocation will be consistent with our operating and strategic priorities, and I think its clear where we will be focused for the next couple years. As we de-lever, we will return to a more balanced capital allocation policy, similar to what we have today, with a competitive dividend, share repurchases, and smart M&A. As always, we remain committed to our top objective of delivering strong, sustainable, long-term shareholder returns.
With that, operator, will you please go ahead and open up the line so that we can take some questions?
QUESTION AND ANSWER
Operator
Thank you.
(Operator Instructions)
Robert Moskow, Credit Suisse.
Robert Moskow - Credit Suisse - Analyst
Hi. Thank you, and congratulations on the transaction.
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Thanks, Rob.
Robert Moskow - Credit Suisse - Analyst
Sean, you and I talked a lot about Hillshires confidence in going into the middle of the store, into dry grocery. You said that the organization has plenty of capacity to do that. I was hoping you could kind of elaborate a little on that. I always think of Hillshire as a refrigerated company and a frozen company. But youre buying a business here that has a lot of middle of the store brands. Wanted to know what capabilities do you have right now? What do you think you still need?
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MAY 12, 2014 / 12:30PM GMT, HSH - Hillshire Brands Co Conference Call to discuss the
acquisition of Pinnacle Foods Inc.
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Well Rob, the way I think about it is we are a consumer-branded food Company, and it all starts with who are the consumers we are speaking to? The consumers we are speaking to are buying products in the center of the store and refrigerated and frozen. Were trying to build a relationship with those consumers.
We like value-creation opportunities in all three zip codes. In terms of go-to-market capabilities, we deal with customers on a top-to-top level. Much of my Management team has been involved in center-store brands for the bulk of our career, myself included. Thats not an issue at all in terms of understanding the center of the store.
One of the things I like about this deal is that the Pinnacle team has tremendous scale and credibility in the center of the store, and that gives us real access to the center of the store that we did not have previously access that could prove meaningful to initiatives like our jerky platform, and as well as extension possibilities with the trademarks we have within the Hillshire portfolio.
I believe that as we get to know the Pinnacle folks better, we are going to learn that there are a lot of capable people on that team that will be tremendous assets to the new Hillshire. I do look forward to getting to know them. I think a very strong go-to-market play will come out of that.
Robert Moskow - Credit Suisse - Analyst
Okay. A quick follow-up about the synergies. $140 million how did you come about analyzing the potential there? How did you come to the number? Where are the main areas that you think those synergies will be?
Secondly, is there anything that youve done already in your first couple of years at Hillshire that would need to be unwound in any way? Any actions that youve taken for cost savings internally? Or is this just going to be a way to layer into that?
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
On the $140 million of annual cost savings that we expect to achieve in synergies, its about 50% SG&A and 50% gross margin. On the G&A side of it, it is mostly related to the redundancies that you would expect to have when you bring two companies together.
On the supply-chain side, which is the gross-margin impact, much of that is related to procurement, and also around distribution and transportation. Theres going to be areas where we expect to get the synergies.
I do not expect us to unwind anything that we have been doing. The way that youll think about it when you think of the go-forward Company is youll think about the new $140 million in annual cost savings that we expect to achieve, plus the benefit of the current productivity program that Hillshire has underway.
Robert Moskow - Credit Suisse - Analyst
Great, so all of it is additive. All right. Thank you very much.
Operator
Ken Zaslow, BMO Capital Markets.
Ken Zaslow - BMO Capital Markets - Analyst
When I think about the Pinnacle portfolio, they have given some growth algorithms around that. Can you talk about what you think that you can do to the top line there that maybe they could not do, and how that rolls into your top-line expectations?
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MAY 12, 2014 / 12:30PM GMT, HSH - Hillshire Brands Co Conference Call to discuss the
acquisition of Pinnacle Foods Inc.
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Ken, clearly were not going to get into any guidance expectations in terms of the new Company and the Pinnacle side of it. Weve got to get in there, learn the business, and really validate some of our key assumptions.
What I can say broadly is that I think this is a good deal for both companies, because when you combine the two, you have two strongly performing companies today; but when you combine the two, you open up new growth opportunities that dont exist independently.
Weve got some assumptions and models in terms of what we think we can do. Weve got work to do to validate it. I think that the key thing I want to communicate that you can count on is that we will be back as we get under the hood here and we put together a concrete plan with an Investor Day where we can take you through that.
Ken Zaslow - BMO Capital Markets - Analyst
Then my follow-up to that is do you suspect there will be some portfolio adjustments in terms of are you going to be keeping everything? How do you look at their portfolio and their portfolio? Are there parts of the portfolio that maybe you do not want, or how do you think about that?
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
I think its too early to tell, but what I think you can see from the past couple years on both sides is that both companies have done a really good job focusing on what Pinnacle calls the leadership brands. Weve done the same thing at Hillshire.
Pinnacles done a fantastic job taking some of the lower-margin, less-productive brands out of the portfolio. Thats done a fantastic job enabling them to do things and consolidate the supply chain, dry productivity up, and expand margins.
I think we will continue to have additional opportunities there. Too early to tell exactly what theyll be, but I think theres undoubtedly a real value creation opportunity in the combination.
Ken Zaslow - BMO Capital Markets - Analyst
Great. Appreciate it. Thank you.
Operator
Farha Aslam, Stephens.
Farha Aslam - Stephens Inc. - Analyst
Congratulations on the transaction.
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Thanks.
Farha Aslam - Stephens Inc. - Analyst
More a financial question. In terms of debt, what interest rate do you anticipate financing the new debt, roughly? In terms of accretion, you highlighted it was accretive in year one. Any idea kind of the number you are thinking about on an EPS basis?
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Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
Ill address that. In terms of the financing, well have a lot more to say about that as we go out to finalize the debt here in the next couple of months. But the rate will depend on exactly how we settle between the various instruments of debt that we may use to fill out the $4.8 billion. I would assume a rate for modeling purposes somewhere around 5% on the new debt. Well obviously update you as that comes to fruition in the next couple of months.
In terms of accretion, it will be accretive in year one. We are not today going to give any specific guidance or numbers. As Shawn mentioned, we will do that at a later date. We expect to have an investor day before the end of the calendar year, where well be able to provide a lot more information and details.
Farha Aslam - Stephens Inc. - Analyst
Okay, great. Thank you so much.
Operator
Andrew Lazar, Barclays.
Andrew Lazar - Barclays Capital - Analyst
It may be a little early to gauge this, but if theres any examples or perspectives youve got from your keep retail partners, itd be helpful to get their perspective on something like this. I guess it works theres two sides to it. Theres the additional scale aspect which could be good, or potentially not as good. Then theres all the things you can do jointly, perhaps, that couldnt be done before. If theres any examples there maybe that youve got from key partners, it would be great to hear that.
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Andrew, I literally havent had one testimonial back because Ive been on the call with you guys since we sent the customer letters out to our team. Too early for me to give you any specifics. I think broadly, what you can see right now in the retailer landscape is the retailers really operate with a meritocracy mindset. They are looking for performance, and they want to work with companies that are performers, whether theyre big or whether theyre small.
We clearly have benefited from that in frozen, where weve been performers, and it has helped our credibility tremendously. Its helped us to sell in into other parts of the frozen section. For example, the new Jimmy Dean line thats coming out beyond breakfast. Weve had just exceptional customer acceptance of that.
I anticipate that there will be a similar level of excitement from our customers around new opportunities to generate profitable growth in the center of the store, which as you know is a very important part of their P&L. I think they will be excited to see us show up there.
I think the Pinnacle trademarks that have potential to go into refrigerated will generate a similar reaction. I think our customers are looking for manufacturers that are going to drive innovation, and help brands to remain strong and have pricing power and low elasticities. Overall, I expect a positive reaction.
Andrew Lazar - Barclays Capital - Analyst
Thanks very much.
Operator
Ken Goldman, JPMorgan.
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Ken Goldman - JPMorgan - Analyst
Sean, as Sara Lees split into a bunch of pieces, one of the reasons was to go away from the strategy of diversification and create a couple of pure plays. I think one of the words used most often at the 2012 Investor Day was focus. Im just wondering as we see Hillshire buy brands outside meat not that youre going away from focus, right?
Youre still going to be a big frozen foods Company. But has your thinking about being the value or the value, rather, of being a pure play has that changed at all since that day a couple years ago, or is that really not the right question to ask here?
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Ken I am really glad you asked me that question. I want to talk about what diversification means in the context of the old Sara Lee and how thats very different from what we were. I think when you look at the old Sara Lee, you see everything from Hanes underwear to international coffee companies to Coach purses to US food businesses. That is diversification, and its diversification that Im not clear ultimately added a lot of value for our shareholders.
What we are now, I would say, is a focused food Company. We are not what youd call a pure-play meat Company, but you could say we are a pure-play branded convenient food Company in the United States of America. I think that is an extremely focused way to look at the business.
Again. Ill come back to my opening points here. We are marketing to consumers who attack branded foods by occasion breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacking. Within each of those occasions, they have a consideration set of brands and products that they go back and forth between.
By doing this deal, we have a larger market share within each of those consideration sets. We can add incremental sales with the very same consumers who are already investing to build relationships to.
When I look at it from a value creation standpoint, and we think about words like pure play and focus, I like the notion that we are focused in the US geography. I like the notion that we are focused on convenient branded foods. Then I like the notion that these brands are highly complementary to one another, as opposed to being highly cannibalistic of one another.
You put it all together, and I think it is a highly attractive and highly focused combination. I think that bodes well for the future.
Ken Goldman - JPMorgan - Analyst
That make sense, thank you. One follow-up.
Maria, is it reasonable to assume some of the savings, at least, will be front-loaded. Youve given a three-year time horizon. Some of that will be lay-offs, right? Is there even though layoffs are an unfortunate part of the business is there a reason to hold those back? As a corollary to that, any rough sense of a waiting on the cost savings between cause and SG&A just for modeling purposes?
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
Ken, there a couple of things. On the savings, I think theyll split about half-and-half between SG&A and gross margin. The supply-chain-related savings will fall into gross margin, and the more overhead type savings will fall into SG&A.
In terms of the saving, we gave two numbers. We gave the annualized cost savings that we expect to achieve of $140 million. We gave a cost to achieve those savings of $180 million. The way I would think about that is that the cost to achieve is more front-end loaded, and the annual savings benefit will be more back-end loaded. Well have more specifics to give you as we finalize the details of all of that, but as you think about modeling them out, thats how I would think about the waiting.
Ken Goldman - JPMorgan - Analyst
Okay, thank you.
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MAY 12, 2014 / 12:30PM GMT, HSH - Hillshire Brands Co Conference Call to discuss the
acquisition of Pinnacle Foods Inc.
Operator
Eric Katzman, Deutsche Bank.
Eric Katzman - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Hi. Good morning everybody, thanks for taking the question.
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Good morning.
Eric Katzman - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Can you hear me?
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Yes.
Eric Katzman - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Okay. I want to two questions. The first is I dont know whether you mentioned possible restructuring charges as part of this or deal costs. Im wondering is this transaction economic profit or cash accretive in the first year? Pretty much anything you do these days is EPS accretive.
On the second, youre paying although we dont usually use these kinds of multiples, you are paying I think about 2.5 times sales. I think the other analysts have been getting around to the same question.
The groups trading at around two times sales. Youre paying a 20% premium for a business that by managements own definition at Pinnacle, really isnt growing. I recognize that deals are kind of a function of discounted cash flow, but how should we think about the fact that the multiple premium on sales is so high?
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Well, Ill turn it over to Maria in a second on to talk about the multiple premium but one of the things that I want to give the Pinnacle management team a lot of credit for is they have spent the better part of the last few years paring this portfolio. That has put a drag on their revenue rate when you look back historically.
If you look at the sequential improvement there, particularly their North America business and within the North American business the leadership brands, not only has the business resumed growth, but it is picking up momentum and it has a very strong strategic plan.
In terms of what is left in this portfolio to deal with, I think the way I described it in my prepared remarks its an excellent foundation upon which to build. If you think back to when we started out of the gate to Sara Lee, frankly we had more work to do in the early days of cleaning up our portfolio, a lot of the work that the Pinnacle team has already done. Once we got that work out of the way at Hillshire, we began to really get the innovation machine going, and getting these better velocities on these iconic brands that had latent potential and had been under-invested in.
We are not going to quote any kind of growth algorithm for the total portfolio at this time, but suffice it to say we believe there is potential in this business still beyond what it has done when you look at a three-year CAGR. We think that bodes well.
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acquisition of Pinnacle Foods Inc.
With respect to the multiple we also think its a very good deal for shareholders. We, as you can imagine, have looked at the economics of this thing every which way you can cut it. No matter how you can cut it, it is an attractive financial proposition. Maria, do you want to add any color to that?
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
Yes. Eric, we definitely have focused on earnings and cash flow. When we look at the economics of it and we run our modeling, we look at what is the expected IRR that well achieve, and we compare that to various alternatives. We compare it against our cost of capital to make sure that we are generating economic profit.
I think you had also a question about fees. Its probably in the neighborhood of $250 million, and youd get that when you add up all the numbers that we gave on the delta. We look at all-in cash costs related to the transaction, and then the future returns that we expect to get.
One of the very attractive things about the Pinnacle business is that it increases the margin of the overall combined Company. Thats very attractive to this Company on a combined basis. Well have very strong cash flows, and the economics of it are very good.
Eric Katzman - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Okay. Thank you for that. Good luck.
Operator
Robert Dickerson, Consumer Edge Research.
Robert Dickerson - Consumer Edge Research - Analyst
Thank you. I think most of my questions have been answered, so keep it easy. A quick question on timing of deal closing. It looks like in preparatory remarks in the release you said that the deals backed by Blackstone. Its partially stocks they have interest.
Im wondering one, if you just help me understand what percentage of the new equity owned or the percentage of the new float would be Blackstone, post-closing.
Number two, just kind of a broader question, which is it sounds like theres backing by Blackstone at this point, but I mean theres still the deal is still open such that others could potentially bid on Pinnacle and/or on Hillshire before the closing of the deal? Thank you.
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
Yes, Blackstone will have about 16% following the close of the transaction. We will be filing the merger agreement here, and all the ancillary agreements with the SEC in the next couple of days. All of those details will be disclosed in those documents
Robert Dickerson - Consumer Edge Research - Analyst
Okay, great. Thank you.
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
including any the second part of your question just around fees associated with potential alternatives, and finding, and how all that shakes out. Youll be able to see all of that.
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MAY 12, 2014 / 12:30PM GMT, HSH - Hillshire Brands Co Conference Call to discuss the
acquisition of Pinnacle Foods Inc.
Robert Dickerson - Consumer Edge Research - Analyst
Okay. That will be out, you said, in a couple days?
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
Yes.
Robert Dickerson - Consumer Edge Research - Analyst
Okay, great. Thank you.
Operator
John Baumgartner, Wells Fargo.
John Baumgartner - Wells Fargo Securities - Analyst
Good morning. Sean, you started to touch on this a little bit, but in terms of brand support and marketing, thats one of the areas you pride yourself on. I guess Pinnacles not really one of the largest brand spenders out there. How are you thinking about the health of their brand? Do you need to increase spending behind them, and maybe your ability to reinvigorate those brands against slower growth categories going forward?
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Well, the first thing Ill point out there is clearly we did our homework here in terms of diligence. One of the first things I wanted to get into in that process was to get under the hood on the underlying strength of these brands.
One of the most encouraging things I found out there is by and large, this portfolios been gaining market share. While theres still room to do more, I think, in terms of supporting the brands and innovating the brands, theyve been fundamentally sound, and improving market share on average. I think thats a very good starting point.
In terms of supporting we talk about supporting our portfolio at Hillshire with MAP. We had MAP targets we sent out there on our original guidance. I think its too early to start quoting numbers, obviously, at this point in terms of level of support. But I think I can say, and you guys know this, our philosophy is to support our growth brands
I dont think theres a lot of questions out there in the investment community around Hillshires commitment to consistently investing to support its brands through good times and bad, because its a fundamental belief of ours thats how we keep strong brands over the long haul. Thats how we keep elasticities low. Thats how we bake in perpetual pricing power, and ultimately deliver the strongest possible returns.
Thats our philosophy. We will stick to it. We will be back at a later date to talk specifically about what it means, but I think we havent changed our approach whatsoever.
John Baumgartner - Wells Fargo Securities - Analyst
Thanks.
Operator
Akshay Jagdale, KeyBanc.
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MAY 12, 2014 / 12:30PM GMT, HSH - Hillshire Brands Co Conference Call to discuss the
acquisition of Pinnacle Foods Inc.
Akshay Jagdale - KeyBanc Capital Markets - Analyst
Good morning, and congratulations on the deal.
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Good morning. Thanks.
Akshay Jagdale - KeyBanc Capital Markets - Analyst
First one is for Maria. Can you talk about the assumption that you have for deal-related amortization? Is it roughly in the $100-million range?
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
Let me talk about D&A kind of in total, if youre thinking moving forward. I have a feeling theres going to be a number of modeling-related questions, so let me go ahead and give some perspective on that.
The depreciation/amortization number will be in the range of $250 million to $275 million moving forward. That would be all in, so ours, theirs, plus additional amortization related to the transaction itself because of purchase accounting.
Akshay Jagdale - KeyBanc Capital Markets - Analyst
Okay. Yes, that sounds a little bit low because okay. Well, Ill follow-up on that. But more broadly, going back to some of the questions on growth versus margins. Why is it having higher margins that important relative to the growth? Would you in general, it seems like the growth profile of the Company without this acquisition was higher.
One, would you agree with that? If so, youre giving up some of the growth for higher margins. Youve seen food companies have higher margins, but theyve been really struggling with growth. Can you help us understand the trade-off that youve just the trade-off of growth versus higher margins, if I may in your opinion, relative to this deal?
Sean Connolly - Hillshire Brands Company - CEO
Sure. Thats a great question, Akshay. The way I personally think about it is I like both. I like businesses that deliver high growth. I like businesses that are extremely high margin and put out a lot of cash. Without getting into names, there are some companies in the food industry that I really admire because they have a nice diverse portfolio where theyve got slower-growth, but very high margin brands and businesses, and theyve got higher-growth, somewhat lower-margin brands and businesses. They can leverage the strengths of each to create better total performance.
Some of the ways I often talk to our investors about this is if you imagine you had an aerial view of the grocery store, there are different neighborhoods in the grocery store. Theres the perimeter of the store where the produce is, theres frozen, theres refrigerated, there is center store. Generally speaking, there are inherently different gross margin structures in each of those neighborhoods, and inherently different growth rates.
Having a bit of a blend across high-margin, lower-growth businesses and lower-margin, higher-growth businesses I think has proven and is proving to be a winning model for some of the companies in the industry, not so much for others. I think when you look at our two companies together, I think its additive when you combine the two.
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Akshay Jagdale - KeyBanc Capital Markets - Analyst
One more for Maria. When you think of the can you just talk a little bit about the synergies in the context of your corporate expense? Obviously youve said numerous times the ongoing corporate expenses at lower levels than normalized. Does the three-year accretion take into account corporate expense going up, or staying where it is right now, for the stand-alone Hillshire?
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
Im not going to give future guidance, which I would have to, to answer your question. What I said about our corporate number for Hillshire as we exist before this transaction is that a normalized level of corporate would be about $60 million a year. When were ready to give guidance on the combined entity, I will give updated guidance on how we shake out in terms of what we think the ongoing corporate number will be following the transaction.
Akshay Jagdale - KeyBanc Capital Markets - Analyst
Great. Ill pass it on. Thank you.
Operator
Todd Duvick, Wells Fargo.
Todd Duvick - BofA Merrill Lynch - Analyst
Maria, you indicated that you expect pro forma leverage to be about five times, and that you expect to return to investment grade within about three years. The question is two-fold.
Number one, can you tell us how we should think about your de-leveraging path, and where you expect leverage to be at the end of three years, and if you expect that leverage to be consistent with an investment grade rating, or you actually do expect to be investment grade within three years?
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
Sure. We expect to achieve an investment grade rating within three years. Let me start there. In terms of the specifics on what the glide path will be from the date that the transaction closes until we are able to return to investment grade, the specific timing of that will depend on a number of factors. It will depend on the results of the business. It will depend on any actions that we take in terms of additional M&A. We are still open to doing small, more tuck-in types of M&A transactions that would be consistent with our strategy, and in line with our growth agenda.
As I mentioned in my comments, we intend to continue our $0.70-per-share dividend. We dont expect to do any share buybacks for the next two years. Well continue to manage the overall capital allocation of the business to maximize shareholder returns, but with the level of debt that we will have, which will be about $5.7 billion, we clearly will be focused on de-levering the Company over the next few years. The exact timing of the investment grade rating I cant tell you today, but we do expect to get it within three years.
Todd Duvick - BofA Merrill Lynch - Analyst
Okay. We generally, or I generally think about investment grade as somewhere in the three times debt-to-EBITDA ratio. Would you say thats a fair estimate for where you expect to be in a three-year time period?
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company - CFO
Im not going to give you the specific number, and Ill note that we have not yet spoken with the rating agencies. Well do that here in the next few weeks and see exactly where we land with the rating at the starting point. When I think about investment grade, I have typically set a number of 3.5 times. Ive said that many times as I was talking about our M&A strategy.
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MAY 12, 2014 / 12:30PM GMT, HSH - Hillshire Brands Co Conference Call to discuss the
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Exactly how the agencies think about it, there are many factors, as you know, that going to that not only the spot point in time leverage, but also the Companys commitment to de-levering, and what the cash-flow generation of the business is.
I wouldnt speak for the agencies, but I will tell you that its our expectation that we will re-gain investment grade within three years, based on the projections that we are using to analyze the transaction.
Todd Duvick - BofA Merrill Lynch - Analyst
Okay. Thats very helpful, thank you.
Operator
Priya Ohri-Gupta, Barclays.
Priya Ohri-Gupta - Barclays Capital - Analyst
Good morning, and thank you so much for taking the question. Just a couple of housekeeping items.
Could you clarify whether all of the Pinnacle Foods, that gets refinanced? Secondly, can you give us an indication of the type of debt financing that youre considering i.e., bank debt versus bond, and how that might be structured to help the de-leveraging costs? Thank you.
Maria Henry - Hillshire Brands Company -CFO
We do expect to refinance all of Pinnacles existing debt. Thats included in the numbers that Ive provided this morning. In terms of how that actually turns out in terms of bank debt and bonds, well see here in the next weeks and months as we go out to the market to lock down the financing on this transaction. It could be bank. It could be bonds. Well see how the markets are and what the economics are and what makes the most sense.
Because we will be focused on de-levering, you should expect that we will look to leave ourselves some flexibility in terms of the instruments that we utilize, to allow us to de-lever over the next several years. Depending on what the bond markets look like, theres some very attractive financing to be had if we were closing it today in that market. But well have to see how it materializes.
Priya Ohri-Gupta - Barclays Capital - Analyst
Thank you very much.
Melissa Napier - Hillshire Brands Company - SVP of IR
Thank you everyone for joining us today. As always, Investor Relations is around to take any follow-up questions, and you all know how to reach us. Thanks for joining us this morning.
Operator
Thank you for your participation. That does conclude todays conference. You may disconnect at this time.
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